I open this show talking a little bit about the commitment myth—the idea that commitment is binary. Because I want you to tell yourself the truth, no matter how much that truth hurts. But the main subject of this show is exactly what you see in the title. And it’s an important one.

There’s so much dogma about grains, legumes, and tubers. This is the show that cuts through all the crap to deliver critical context based on actual human history. My guest is Arthur Haines who is a brilliant researcher and teacher. 

Here’s a great intro to Arthurs work and mission…

Here’s the episode…

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  • James says:

    Thanks so much for this interview! I think the message Arthur carries is an important one that needs to be heard by the whole “Paleo” community so there can be deeper discussion (rather than writing whole food groups off) on key topics such as the ones addressed here 🙂

  • Sarah K says:

    Hi Kevin – thank you very much for this interview with Arthur Haines! It was just brilliant. I’ve always had a lot of skepticism about the basic concepts surrounding “paleo” and “low carb” diets. I learnt a number of new pieces of valuable information, including the issue on whether or not the Inuits consumed carbohydrates. Arthur explained this so nicely.

    This is a radio interview well worth listening to if you are open-minded and wish to know more about the health benefits of grains, legumes and tubers.
    Yours in health

  • Dawn says:

    Hi Kevin
    Thank you for a great show. We aré trying yo figure out if my daughter can some bread once in a while. After we moved to Spain she started having stomac issues – but it took me a while to connect the dots: When we lived in Denmark we ate only organic, primary sourdough bread, and after we moved we got hooked on the white Southern European bread that is a staple down here. When we don’t eat bread her stomac is better – but she misses it! I hope we can find a way to make bread for her that is good for her.

    • Kevin Geary says:

      Sourdough is fermented and many of the problematic aspects of wheat are eliminated during that process. That’s likely why it’s tolerable for her. I would stick to sourdough—she’s likely to continue having issues for as long as she’s eating the new type of bread.

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